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Is it possible to talk of “vulgarity” in classical music?

I recently read in the Classical music section (in a region different from English speaking countries) a couple of questions regarding the “vulgarity” in Classical music. The person stated that some composers and players can be classified as “vulgar” while anothers can be regarded as “refined”. In the first class that persons ranked composers like Shostakovich or piano players like Liberace or conductors like Celibidache (based in the rude manners of the conductor), while in the second class this person ranks Debussy and Berlioz.

I am a newcomer understanding how can we label some music or musicians as “vulgar” or as “refined”. In the case of some people could be justified judging their behaviour, but what would be the criterion to classifiy a Classical piece as “vulgar” or as “refined”? Is it related with the harmony, with the chromatism, with the excess of instrumentation perhaps…?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
best regards.
Dear Gengis Kan:

I agree with you that it could be a very hard task to classify a piece of music (specially Classical Music) as “vulgar” or refined. I posted this question here to receive more information to understand – founded in some serious basis – how can someone judge a composition as “vulgar”. It is interesting to read in the answers given before you, that indeed is possible to find in a masterpiece a bit of “disgusting” taste according to some accepted parameters.

Thanks for your effort in replying my question here in English. I could read your text without problems.

Greetings my friend! (¡Saludos amigo!)

5 comments - What do you think?  Posted by - February 23, 2011 at 1:43 am

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Homosexual/Bisexual celebrities that make the gay community look bad/good?

Gays/Bisexuals that make gays look good –

-Adam Lambert.
-Ellen DeGeneres
-David Bowie
-Freddie Mercury
-Billie Joe Armstrong
-Harvey Milk
-Neil Patrick Harris
-Jesse Tyler Ferguson
-Janice Ian

Gays/Bisexuals who make gays look bad-
-Perez Hilton
-Chris Crocker
-J. Edgar Hoover
-Roy Cohn
-Rock Hudson

List some more for each list?
And what are your opinions on these people and people who improve/damage the gay community image?
I’m 14 years old. I’m writing a Freshman (9th grade) persuasive essay about gays having the same cognitive thinking that straights do. And the image of homosexuals in media, etc.

4 comments - What do you think?  Posted by - February 22, 2011 at 6:42 am

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a funny riddle to brighten up your day! :)?

Arnold Schwarzenegger has a big one.

Michael J. Fox has a small one.

Seth Rogen has a medium one.

Madonna doesn’t have one, according to her.

The Pope has one but doesn’t use it.

Clinton uses his all the time.

Mickey Mouse has an unusual one.

Liberace never used his on women.

Jerry Seinfeld is very, very proud of his.

Cher claims that she took on 3.

We never saw Lucy use Desi’s.

What is it?

Think HARD. 🙂

A last name! ;D
Sorry, I don’t do dirty jokes. ;]
i got it from a website.
& you’re welcome to share it. 🙂

8 comments - What do you think?  Posted by - February 21, 2011 at 11:49 am

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what’s this, jokes of the day.?

A riddle for the day
Arnold Schwarzenegger has a big one.
Michael J. Fox has a small one.
Madonna doesn’t have one.
The Pope has one but doesn’t use it.
Clinton uses his all the time.
Mickey Mouse has an unusual one.
Liberace never used his on women.
Jerry Seinfeld is very, very proud of his.
Cher claims that she took on 3.
We never saw Lucy use Desi’s.
What is it?
Datuk you make me laugh….. we wait for others people to answer what will they think about me..
I believed all of you think i’m talking dirty jokes…hah… you are wrong guys..

5 comments - What do you think?  Posted by - February 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm

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i need help with a chorus for a history song…please thanks?

using the format from the song ( we didn’t start the fire bu billy Joel), start in 1992 and end in 2009, find 4-5 events per year and write your own post cold war song. Be sure to have a chorus.

i just need a chorus that’s all basically for my song

here is the song we didn’t start the fire by Billy Joel

49 harry truman, doris day, red china, johnnie ray
South pacific, walter winchell, joe dimaggio

50 joe mccarthy, richard nixon, studebaker, television
North korea, south korea, marilyn monroe

51 rosenbergs, h-bomb, sugar ray, panmunjom
Brando, the king and I and the catcher in the rye

52 eisenhower, vaccine, englands got a new queen
Marciano, liberace, santayana goodbye

We didnt start the fire
It was always burning
Since the worlds been turning
We didnt start the fire
No we didnt light it
But we tried to fight it

53 joseph stalin, malenkov, nasser and prokofiev
Rockefeller, campanella, communist bloc

54 roy cohn, juan peron, toscanini, dacron
Dien bien phu falls, rock around the clock

55 einstein, james dean, brooklyns got a winning team
Davy crockett, peter pan, elvis presley, disneyland

56 bardot, budapest, alabama, krushchev
Princess grace, peyton place, trouble in the suez


57 little rock, pasternak, mickey mantle, kerouac
Sputnik, chou en-lai, bridge on the river kwai

58 lebanon, charles de gaulle, california baseball
Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide

59 buddy holly, ben hur, space monkey, mafia
Hula hoops, castro, edsel is a no-go

60 u-2, syngman rhee, payola and kennedy
Chubby checker, psycho, belgians in the congo


61 hemingway, eichmann, stranger in a strange land
Dylan, berlin, bay of pigs invasion

62 lawrence of arabia, british beatlemania
Ole miss, john glenn, liston beats patterson

63 pope paul, malcolm x, british politician sex
Jfk, blown away, what else do I have to say


64 – 89 birth control, ho chi minh, richard nixon back again
Moonshot, woodstock, watergate, punk rock
Begin, reagan, palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollahs in iran, russians in afghanistan

Wheel of fortune, sally ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, aids, crack, bernie goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, chinas under martial law
Rock and roller cola wars, I cant take it anymore


We didnt start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on…

can you guys help me with a chorus like:

we didn’t start the fire
no we didn’t light it
but we tried to fight it

thanks for helping and trying to help thanks i just need like 4 to 5 lines for the chorus THANKS AGAIN

1 comment - What do you think?  Posted by - February 19, 2011 at 9:43 pm

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Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley?

Johnny Cash or bob Dylan
Milli Vanilli or Ashlee Simpson
Harvey Milk or Martin Luther King Jr
Chris Farley or Rodney Dangerfield
Marvin Gaye or Bob Marley
Chris Mccandless or Timothy Treadwell
John Lennon or Paul McCartney
The Runaways or Dreamgirls
Judy Garland or Marilyn Monroe
Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg or Tuvia Bielski
Daffy duck or Donald duck
Kurt Cobain or Sid Vicious
The Beatles or The Who
Liberace or Ray Charles
Beavis and Butthead or Ren and Stimpy
the three stooges or Laurel and Hardy
Weird Al Yankovic or Tiny Tim
Dr. Seuss or Jim Henson
Pat Benatar or Blondie
Salvador Dali or Pablo Picasso
Sam Kinison or Bill Hicks
Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali

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Do you approve of gender change?

Wayne Newton was effeminate when he was younger and he used to get a lot of crap about it– late night talk show hosts would make him the brunt of gay jokes, basically equating him with Liberace. Now he wasn’t gay, and would physically attack guys that insinuated he was a feminine gay. Eventually he got tired of the insults and changed his gender.

Do you approve of such gender changes without medical supervision?

Should people be allowed to change their gender?

Before gender change:

After gender change:
OK, nobody gets the joke, so I will explain a little more. Wayne Newton is a man, but his gender was somewhat feminine. He eventually changed his gender to macho masculine, but his sex never changed.

It was a play on the true meanings of words and the imprecision of some people’s vocabulary.
OK, let me try again…

This is the definition of “gender” I am using for the question:

“2b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex”

I’m not talking about sex changes, just changes in gender, LoL.

That’s why I brought Wayne Newton into this. He went from effeminate to macho overnight, and the old ladies in Vegas started to swoon when he did that– people also shut up about calling him gay after that as well.

9 comments - What do you think?  Posted by - February 18, 2011 at 7:44 am

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